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Further to the piece below if you collect the items that are in section 141 of the 1988 Act typically things lke Middle East Commando knives, BC41 you will only be allowed to keep these if they are historically important.  However here is the rub whilst you will be allowed to keep the item you will not be allowed to sell it, give it or otherwise dispose of it.  The compensation scheme ends in March 2021 so you cannot claim compensation after that date. This leaves collectors and particularly their heirs with a problem - what do you do with the item and how do you protect its value and our military heritage.    A group of us a seeking to have the 2019 Act changed to allow the defence of selling an item of historic importance included.  Support these efforts by writing to you MP to complain about this and seeking an amendment to Section 46 of the OWA so that the Historically Important Defence applies to paragraph 1& 1A of Section 141 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988. Currently it only applies to paragraph 1A (ownership in private).



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The compensation Bill associated with the Offensive Weapons Act 2019 has now passed through the   Parliamentary process with the Government issuing details of the compensation scheme on the 9th December 2020.   Full details can be found by going to the Home Office website.     The compensation scheme will end on the 9th March 2021 and no compensation will be paid for items under £30 though you can group items together to bring the total claim up to and above this value.   However you need to note the almost ridiculous standard valuations placed on items such a £40 for a gravity knife.  You can claim a higher amount but will need to supply evidence to support your claim.


Interesting iupdate on the above soemone submitted a claim for £40 when handing in one of the post war Gwrman black handled gravity knives and did get the standard pay of £40 which is probably what its worth.  I still however wait to hear about anyone claiming a higher amount for say a WW2 example.


Also when asking certain questions about the compensation scheme I was given to believe by the home office that they would only pay out on garvity knives if you were the legal owner pre 1959 which is when they became illegal to sell, import etc.   However the form you sign only ask if you are the legal owner.   


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AUCTION HOUSES - Some less than honest.


Several years ago I bought from a  dealer a set of rare shoulder titles.  These turned out to be fake and I got my money back with no issues.   Turn clock forward to today and this same dealer who has associations with a auction has for sale in the auction a small batch of insignia which includes what are the same set of titles.  If genuine these would be worth many hundreds of pounds yet the estimate is around £30.   From his expertise he knows what a real set is worth but the lot contains no comment about them being reproductions/fakes or even any mention of the titles  Why not ?


In another auction house, one whose home page boast "our expert staff" has for sale a large amount of what is claimed ot be SOE/MI9 items.   There is supposed to be provenance to a deceased collector and yes it is possible that it did come from one collection, but the 99% of the items are fake.   So why do their expert staff not know this!


Some auction houses do not seem to care they are selling fakes which are catalogued as being genuine relying on less knowledgable buyers to pay good money, and thus earn good commission, for the items without any repercussions on the auction house.   BUYER BEWARE


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